Kaia Gerber is officially opening up about her relationship with Lewis Pullman, and it’s honestly the most relatable take on love we’ve heard in a while.
The 23-year-old model and actress, who first sparked dating rumors with the Thunderbolts actor in January 2025, recently appeared on her close friend Jake Shane’s podcast Therapuss. While chatting about her personal life, Kaia gave fans a candid look into why her relationship with Lewis just works—and why she thinks everyone should consider dating a friend.
Lewis, 32, has already earned high praise from Kaia’s inner circle. “I feel like Lewis takes care of you so well, you know what I mean? He would be the type to text you, ‘Not mad at you,’” Jake said during the conversation.
Kaia lit up at that and shared a recent memory from a group trip: “It is so nice. I mean, one, especially in Portland. I felt like he was all of our boyfriend,” she said with a laugh. Jake even chimed in, “Yeah, he was my boyfriend,” to which Kaia added: “He was the group’s boyfriend. He loves you and Will so much.”
For Kaia, it wasn’t just about the sparks between them, but also how easily Lewis fit in with her friends. “I really feel like a lot of the appeal to me was you guys,” she explained. “He was like, ‘Your friends are amazing.’ And I was like, ‘It’s a shock that they want to hang out with me.’ But I’m definitely—a lot is being like healed in this relationship.”
The model got especially thoughtful when talking about the difference between love and lust. “I really feel like if you have the opportunity to date a friend, do it because it just is so much better,” she advised. “I would never want to fight with my friends. I never want to be mad at my friends. I respect my friends. It just is a whole other thing. And I think sometimes you forget that you like someone when you love them.”
Kaia reflected on how complicated relationships can get, even when love is at the center. “I truly feel like in some relationships…you get to a place where it’s almost impossible to understand how love can get you there. You’re like, ‘How can we get brought here by love?’ Like how is love the thing that carried us to this point of hurt and pain and anger and resentment and all those things when love is supposed to be a really beautiful thing.”
Her advice was refreshingly unfiltered: “So, I really think if you can, date your friends, you should. Or date someone that you would be friends with anyway. Don’t date someone just because you’re sexually attracted to them and are in lust with them. You should sleep with them, but you don’t need to make them your partners.”
With PDA-filled appearances at the Venice Film Festival and Kaia openly gushing about Lewis to her closest friends, it seems this relationship isn’t just a fling—it’s the real deal.
